Thus the date matches well for the defeat of Albion so the Herculese coloney (and I am sugesting that some of the celts fought in Herculese’s army (Nimrod’s General) and later built the village of Windmill Hill circa 2038 BC plus the fact that the Neanderthals overlpped into this time frame> It has been sugested that infact Mesolithic Huntergatherers who addopted the Neolithic Industry circa 2044/ 2038 BC have been called by archaeologists the “Secondry Neolthic”.

 Of particul;ar interest in this connection flint arrowheads have been found there and copper and bronze artifacts. I am sugesting that the Bronze Dagger &c datefrom a later construction about 1421/1365 BC from Hu Gadarn and his men supposedly Britain’s first colonists; But that I am sugesting that 2038 BC was the earliest construction; associated also with the “Giant’s Dance” I have also sugested the Neanderthals were capable of Neolithic civilization.

These Giants came from North Africa and so did the Neanderthals and were thus caananites. In conclusion then if these Giants came from North Africa and also the Neanderthals; I am infuring that the Giants and the Neanderthals were one and the same being the fact that Neanderthal were more robust; muscular and more powerdul than modern humans nun the less human all the same but which one would attribute to archaic Humans.

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Introduction to Chapter One

Introduction to Chapter One The Key events in this Alternative History are;

1: Year 0 creation 4004 BC thus metal iron copper Bronze all being used up until Babel and beyond but after the dispersion there was a loss of technologies among some people groups while others retained them.

2: The Flood anno mundi 1656 or 2348 BC.

3: Division in the days of Peleg anno mundi 1757 or 2247 BC. The Ice age Started in 2260 BC and was seen by the survey teams and Britain and Europe covered by Ice by 2247 BC.

4: The Founding of Babel anno mundi 1770 or 2234 BC and takes 43 yrs to build.

5: The dispersion in 1813 anno mundi or 2191 BC .

6: Egypt founded by Misraim eb1 anno mundi 1816 or 2188 BC (Misraem is

Menes)

7: Birth of Abraham anno mundi 2008 or 1996 BC.

8 Exodus anno mundi 2513 or 1491 BC (Ice age ends at this date).

 For other possible mechanisms for the Ice age I refer the reader to “Speak through the Earthquake Wind and Fire” by Graham A Fisher who suggests an Ice Planet at time of dispersion from Babel but since we have other mechanisms it is advisable therefore to state that there was a water vapor canopy at time of the flood (Oard’s date 2346 BC) but the Ice age proper by 2260 BC seen by the survey teams.

After the flood there was a limited supply of metal and people had this technology from the creation right through to Babel. It is noteworthy that Iron was used immediately after the flood although the survey teams might have had to create stone tools to aid them in their work mining for tin copper (Bronze) and Iron and gold ; Silver &c and particularly after the flood the earth was rich in minerals. Our History opens with Chapter one and is therefore post flood from the Ice Age to the Romans> The Reader should find these chapters of particular interest.

 JohnHXF (Author)

Chapter One:- The Sidonians:- Gadir was a son of  Poseidon (Sidon) or Agadir from which the port of Gadir (or Gales) was built in Spain around 2252 BC and was a port for shipping minerals &c between there and Britain some mining of tin and copper was done in Southern England at this time in Cornwall.

It must be bourn in mind in this connection that Sidon was son of  Caanan and the surveys and tin and copper mining were I suggest carried out by the Sidonian Phonicians who were thus Caananites.

Thus after the flood some metal was available for working in Bronze and Iron but perhaps notably Iron. The Survey Teams probably first had to make stone tools to aid them in their work of mining for minerals and metals. Thus I am suggesting that the Sidonians at this time carried out the mining in Britain (Cornwall) and also built some “Survey Monoliths”

 (Reff; Darrell K White). By 2260 BC the Ice Glaciers covered Europe (Last world survey to 2252 BC. By 2247 BC Britain was covered in Ice and at this time the Japethites did not inhabit Britain but found it a waste land only fit for hunter gatherers. I am

suggesting here that the hunter gatherers of 2247 BC were thus a remnant of Sidon’s family who had built the survey monoliths and mining in Cornwall for tin and copper when it was checked out by the early survey team who rapidly degenerated in to the stone age cultures of what archaeologists term the “Paleolithic Industry of whom probably the earliest of them and or remains have been found in Swanscombe in Kent.

I suggest that these were the earliest  Neanderthals descended from Sidon’s men and got lost in to the “Hinterlands at this time.” Mining for copper and tin was probably carried on on a small scale up to the time of dispersion from Babel (2191 BC) when even more metal working technologies were lost but probably the metal tools that they possessed were passed on down through the various families until they became “common place ” again later.

Chapter Two:- North Scotland and Scandinavia under Cichol Gricenchos, Cichol Gricenchos was Formorian/Caananite Chieftain who was born ca 2250 BC and became chieftain of the formorei (Picts) and began his fishing hunter gathering industry 200 yrs before the Battle of Magithe with Partholon in Ireland in 2025 BC.

He and his sp Neanderthal Tribes which is what Darrell and myself are sugesting came and occupied Scandenavia (SGusten Olsen : “Incredible Nordic Origens ) 200 yrs before Magithe in 2225 BC. Thus these industries are termed by archaeologists. “The Mesolithic Industry” It will be noted here that the village of Scara Brae was an outpost after the flood in those early days and we are thus suggesting that it was built by Cichol Gricenchos between 2200 and 2000 BC.

I am thus suggesting that these were the combined Mesolithic and Neolithic Industries and that the Formorians terned more to agriculture and farming after the Battle of Magithe in 2025 BC. Thus these industries were this author conjectures and indeed suggests “A Mixed Economy of Fishing hunter gathering and Agriculture. The Mammoth Saber toothed Tiger ; Cave Bear and Wooly Rhinoceros were hunted by these hunting parties. It must be noted here in this connection that the terms Paleolithic Mesolithic Neolithic and copper Bronze and iron are here confined to Industries only

and not ages. Thus the Time of division in Peleg’s day is dated to 2247 BC or 1757 anno mundi.

Chapter 4a.A discovery was made of Ireland 140 yrs after the flood in 2208 BC by Ardna son of Nin or family of Nimrod (Also Canaanites but not related to Sidon’s family) and were Cushites. Thus he did not stay long in Ireland but tested the soil and took samples back to Babylon thus symbolic of laying claim to Ireland but never returned.

Chapter 4b.The German colonization by the German Neolithic and copper Industries people took place in 2193/2192 BC although 2192 BC would probably be more accurate near the Babel dispersion 155 after the flood if we take the end of the flood to be about 2347 BC then 2347 – 155 = 2192 BC for this colonization (HLH Compendium of World History) . I am suggesting that Ootzy the Ice man preserved in Ice also lived at the same time and was thus a contemporary (Review of German Neolithic Industries People by JohnHXF from History Player) Thus the copper axe would have been a very useful tool to negotiate the ice age glaciers of the alps at this time.

 Their HQ was probably at Kolne Deutz hence the name Deutches (German). (I would suggest that the Sidonians kept their metal working technologies a secret from other peoples at the time they did the mining in Cornwall). The German colonization is thus verified by HLH (Compendium of World History and the Bayeriche Chronik. The building of the city of Trier (Not the oldest in Europe) and colonization took place 2000 yrs before caesar (79 BC) = 2079 BC for the founding of Trier.

It must be pointed out in this connection that although Ardna discovered Ireland 140 yrs after the flood in 2208 BC that Cichol Gricenchos at best passed Ireland by in 2208 BC and saw the place where his father had shown him for fishing hunting and gathering but was in Scotland or at any rate North Scotland to start his industry in 2225 BC 200 yrs before Battle of Magithe with Partholan who had colonized Ireland 10 yrs before the battle in 2035 BC.

Chapter 5. The Neolithic Industry . Samothes in Britain. (England).

 The Neolithic Industries colonization of Britain occured 200 yrs after the flood (Holinshed’s chronicles). Some of these people were hunter gatherers although I am suggesting that they were combined industries with the hunter gatherers who were probably poorer people ownly used flint tools while the agricultural community most likely had flint and copper tools. And as we have already seen from the review of the German Neolithic industries which was about 2192 BC 500 yrs after the end of the flood (2347 BC) which was even earlier than Samothes we noted the Ice man Ootzy who had a copper axe to negotiate his way through the Ice age Glaciers in the alps so no doubt

the “Gricenchos Neanderthal sp Groups also coexisted along side of them at this time.

 In our next chapter we come to a Neanderthal led invasion of England by Albion .

I would just briefly mention that Samothes reached France about 2187/86 BC before comeing to England just after the flood of Gallia.

Chapter Six:- Albion in England:-

The Samotheans were children of Japeth and Samothes is therefore called by Moses Meschec. There was a land bridge during the Ice age till the meltdown

in 1491 BC. Albion invaded England with his Formor /Neanderthal groups (as we conjecture that the Neanderthals were children of Sidon who were thus Caananites  (by our Mine and Darrell’s hypothesis) and defeated Bardus in France (Britain joined to France during the Ice Age with Land bridge)  and the date of his arrival in now England were the Northern parts of the Celtic Kingdom in 2088 BC untill 2044 BC after his defeat.

 Thus the Neanderthals were in these Northern parts for many years after this and were still here at the time of Partholan colonizing Ireland in 2035 BC. Formorian Chieften Cichol Gricenchos was responsible we suspect for the colonies in Northern Scotland and Scandenavia around 2225 BC and sugest he simply passed Ireland by in about 2208 BC 140 yrs after the flood (2348 BC) but was born in 2250 BC making him a mature leader when he started his industry in Scotland &c in 2225 BC 200 yrs before Battle of Magithe so must have seen the fishing lands that he claimed and tried to take from Partholan in 2025 BC.

 Trier fits a different chronology and was colonized 2000 yrs before Caesar (79 BC) Thus 2079 BC being a reasonable average by the Assyrians (HLH compendium

of World History) by Trebetta, son of Assyrian king Ninius (See combined Industries tables).

Scandinavia was setted 62 years after the dispersion from Babel in 2129 BC bt King Erick and the Goths (S Gusten Olsen Incredible Nordic Origins.)

Chapter 7. Partholan :- Neolithic Industry in Ireland Anno mundi 1969 or 2035 BC.

Partholan was the first to colonize Ireland and brought the plough and Oxen with him and

probably used some copper tools as well as the usual flint implements and is also said to have introduced beer drinking from Gold cups and his colony lasted about three hundred years which was 313 after the flood. Abraham was born anno mundi 2008 or 1996 BC.

Thus ten years later Sidon’s son Cichol Gricenchos invaded Ireland discovered Partholan there so in order to try and gain his fishing grounds fought the Battle of Magithe in 2025 BC and Partholan defeated and killed Cichol Gricenchos and the rest of the Formorei in 2025 BC although there might have been a remnant who settled down to farming.

 Thus most of Partholan’s colony was wiped out by a plague although some members of his tribe might have survived till the time of Nemed who arrived in Ireland in 1736 BC; But before that we have to deal with Brtan Male who arrived in Scotland in 1766 BC which is our next brief chapter.

Chapter 8. Britan Mael colonizes Scotland 1766 BC:-

Our next colony arrived in 1766 BC in Scotland and colonised it. This is not to be confused with the later colony of Hu Gadarn; whom according to the Cambrian Journal arrived in England in 1788 BC and some 22 yrs difference in the dates. Hu G arrived later in ca 1421 BC in Southern England plus also Wales and were a Bronze using people which we will turn to in a later chapter.

 Partholan’s colony in Ireland ruled about 269 years and there was a gap of 30 yrs

to Nemed in which Partholan’s coney was wiped out by a plague which brings us to 1766 BC and a line of British kings descended not from Brutus but Britan Mael.

 Tools of Neolithic industry type have been found in burial chambers during this period and also copper tools I would however like to remind the reader that if a certain culture was labeled say stone age or copper; this does not preclude the use of some bronze/and or iron (Used in the construction of Ploughs and used as leg irons for horses and they searched for gold as well (and all during the last phases of the Ice age.

Britain Mael (after whom Britain takes its name) was a grandson of Nemed who

came 30 years before the arrival of the Nemedians into Ireland who arrived in 1736 BC (OurNext Chapter)

Chapter 8a Nemed in Ireland 1736 BC

The Nemedians under Nemed came to Ireland in 1736 BC (All Dates are from Geanealogy Spread sheet from Mr Darrell White) and ruled Ireland from 1736 BC untill 1520 BC which is a period of 216 yrs, (Annals of Clon Macnoise) .

 Many Lochs broke out in his reign but the land bridge between Britain and Ireland and France finally gave way in 1491 BC at the time of the Exodus. The Nemeds won some victories over the Formorians (Note these Formores are from North Africa and decendents of Sidon and a Bronze using people) but were pirates and took Ireland eventually from the Nemeds who had pretty much the same industries as their predesessors and were of the late Neolithic and copper industries called by some archaeologists”Chalcolithic Industries; but as we’ve already seen from a previous chapter were in fact combined industries.

There is some evidence for this from the burial chambers of which “New

Grange ” is a typical example. There is also evidence from the North Sea of the different stone age cultures living side by side of each other contemporaneously. In most cases it seems that the Hunter gatherers raided the land of the agriculturalists in some cases ; of which Cichol Gricenchos was a typical example.

 The decedents of the hunter gatherers (Citidals of Mystery Penguin Books) have been called by some archaeologists The “Secondary Neolithic” as is the case with the formores adopting agriculture and settling down after the Battle of Magithe with Partholan in 2025 BC.

Our next chapter deals with Ireland and Britain after the Ice age melt down in 1491 BC. In conclusion therefore to this chapter I am sugesting that the remains of Mammoth; wooly Rhynosorous &c are the remains and result of the Ice age melt down at the

time of the exodus anno mundi 2513 or 1491 BC.

Chapter 10

Hiber Scot explores Ireland ca 1445 BC:- In ca 1445 BC Hiber Scot explores Ireland and claims it for his tribe who came 400 yrs later in 1045 BC and also Scotland.

During this period Ireland was a wasteland and uninhabbited, Although some eb1 tools are found by archaeologists for this period it is not enough for a transition to eb1.

After the meltdown there were flowers and meadows &c and there was production of mead and honey at this time. The Firbolgues sons of Dela arrived Ireland in 1304 BC and brought the early bronze industry with them while the Bronze industry in England and Wales was introduced By Hu Gadarn and his men (Decendents of Japeth) and arrived England in 1421 BC (ChronologyRevision) and built Stonehenge at this date as is evidenced by the Mycenaean Bronze Dagger and flint arrowheads found at stonehenge.

The Date for Hiber Scott exploring Ireland was 1477 BC (See Darrell’s emails at

www.johnhextfremlin.com)  and he made a claim for his tribe at this date when the Milesians under Miles colonised Ireland four hundred plus years later when they came in David’s days 1055 to 1015 BC.

Hiber Scot came  to Ireland in 1477 while there were a remnant of the Nemeds there ruling until 1304 BC while Ireland was a waste land after the Ice age melt down in 1491 BC at the time of the Exodus so while some of the Nemed escaped the catastrophe there may have been survivors; thus both concepts I am suggesting would be true. According to the Annals of the Four Masters a battle takes place about 1520 BC with the second wave of Formorians ; but none prior to the Firbolgue occupation in around 1304 BC according to this thread of Irish History.

Thus 1304BC to 1504 BC = 216yrs and to 1736 BC = another 216 yrs making a grand total rule of the Nemeds rule 432 yrs. In Keating we have two different versions speaks of African Formorians fleeing the battle which sounds like 1480 BC to 1451 BC and three other battles happening about that time. The Lebor Gebala (Irish book of invasions ) speaks of three battles against the formorians when four lakes burst forth between 1480-1490 BC. (These being a result of the Ice age melt down at the time of the exodus in 1491 BC). It specifies a 217 year period assuming 1304 BC + 217= 1521 BC adding another 215 yrs to 1736 BC Beginning of Nemed’s rule totals again 432 yrs  therefore using 1520 BC as a round figure makes things that bit easier. In Keating in the annals of Clonmacnoise it specifies that there was a battle 50 yrs before the firbolgue arrival in Ireland in 1354 BC with the Nemeds but I sugest the nemeds ruled Ireland while the formorians on Tory Island with a remnant of each tribe so therefore no overall control of Ireland being as it was a Wasteland at this time.

Chapter 11 The Firbolgues in Ireland and reintroduction of Bronze Industry eb1 1304 BC

Our next arrivals came to Ireland with the introduction of the Bronze industry (eb1) in 1304 BC while there was a remnant of nemeds ruling till this time and they ruled Ireland for 37 yrs until the tuatha dedannans took it in 1267BC and were there according to this chronology about 197 yrs +15 = 212 yrs until Miles Gaytholos and Scotta took Ireland in David’s days 1055 to 1015 BC.

 This was Middle Bronze two mb2 stimulated by Solomon,

Chapter !2 England Brutus 1152 eb1 and mb1 in Britain (England).

It is said that when Brutus came to Britain after the fall of Troy in 1184 BC he landed in Totness in Cornwall but that when he arrived he found some giants, I am suggesting that these giants were a remnant of the previous colony of Hu G’s men although it has been said that there were Canaanite giants in the lands or a remnant thereof and Brutus saved one of these giants for combat with Corenius who through Gog Magog over his shoulders and where the deed was done to this day is called Gogmag’s Leap .

 The Late Bronze industry started about 722 BC with a reference here to Darrell See emails at www.johnhextfremlin.com. This concludes this small chapter and the line of Brutus which would be too time consuming . Late Bronze 722 – 585 BC

Chapter 13 Iron A and Iron B in Britain to the Roman Invasions of Caesar.

At the end of this line of kings of Brutus there was civil war and these were the Latene Celts with Iron (a) 546-539 BC with a new technology of iron swards and weaponry Iron (B) was in the days of Morindus King of Britain 330 BC to 300 BC (References Compendium of World History HLH) and the two invasions of Caesar took place in 55 and 54 BC . The Romans conquered Britain in AD 43 (from memory) and the Picts were troublesome throughout the period of occupation so this is why Hadrian’s Wall was built to keep the Picts in the North. The Romans left Britain in Ad 410 as the Goths and vandals Huns &c were attacking Rome so the legions were recalled back to Rome.

This concludes the alternative History Paper JohnHXF,  Nemed 1736 to 1520 BC and the second wave of Formores: A Supplement to :- “An Alternative History of Spain; Scandinavia; Germany; Britain; Ireland and Northwest Europe (JohnHXF) From Genealogy Spread Sheet.